# "Visible" Component disappears when I create a group of shapes

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/visible-component-disappears-when-i-create-a-group-of-shapes/83399>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Tags:** vision\
**Created:** [December 20, 2023, 9:45pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/visible-component-disappears-when-i-create-a-group-of-shapes/83399 "2023-12-20T21:45:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![Abraham\_Faz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Abraham\_Faz](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Abraham_Faz)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 9:45pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/visible-component-disappears-when-i-create-a-group-of-shapes/83399/1 "2023-12-20T21:45:26Z")

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I am trying to combine some shapes into one group but when I group them, by right clicking on them and pressing group, the parameter that says "Visible" disappears. However, one of my coworkers is able to do the same thing and the visible parameter is there! I'm not sure if it's because my version of Ignition and Windows isn't compatible or what it is but I don't know why that option would disappear.  
Also if I ungroup a grouped component that has the visible parameter on there and then group it again, the visible parameter disappears also.

![Screenshot 2023-12-20 153553](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/a/c/acce1a722752e7d1559a7757211e7823fcd6daff.png)  
 ![Screenshot 2023-12-20 153548](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/8/3/83baad7bac12b92e54a2dd476a7d690f1a7e5955.png)  
 ![Screenshot 2023-12-20 153545](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/a/0/a0257cf26a2264efb56eb40e8b193eb136ab87da.png)

These are screenshots of two grouped components with the shapes and the vision editor.

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**Author:** ![paul-griffith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/paul-griffith/32/37249_2.png) [@paul-griffith](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/paul-griffith)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2023, 10:39pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/visible-component-disappears-when-i-create-a-group-of-shapes/83399/2 "2023-12-20T22:39:24Z")

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It's a weird quirk of the property visibility - one of you is probably creating a "group", while the other is creating a "container".

For your sake, @Abraham_Faz, change the 'Property Filter' in your Designer to All and eliminate this whole source of confusion.  
 ![Screenshot 2023-12-20 at 2.38.54 PM](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/f/9/f9a2a56ac681150b271b3be441081ade8685aa39.png)

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**Author:** ![Abraham\_Faz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Abraham\_Faz](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Abraham_Faz)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2023, 3:19pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/visible-component-disappears-when-i-create-a-group-of-shapes/83399/3 "2023-12-21T15:19:27Z")

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Thank you! Yes I believe that was the problem.