# Vision login help **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Tags:** vision, ignition81\ **Created:** [March 9, 2023, 9:00pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/vision-login-help/70870 "2023-03-09T21:00:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 2\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jon\_Laicovsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecccb3/32.png) [@Jon\_Laicovsky](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Jon_Laicovsky)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 9:00pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/vision-login-help/70870/1 "2023-03-09T21:00:32Z")
Hello, I would like to get some help either by previous answers, posts, videos, etc. I'm trying to use Vision to open a client's application. What is the login information? I tried my Ignition login, adding a login into the project properties, and to no avail. Would someone kindly help me? Additionally, I am new to Ignition. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![dkhayes117](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/dkhayes117/32/68344_2.png) [@dkhayes117](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/dkhayes117)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 9:27pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/vision-login-help/70870/2 "2023-03-09T21:27:36Z")
You need to provide a valid username and password that exists in the `User Source` for the project and with the correct role if defined. You can also use an `Identity Provider`. The best places to learn things like this are the [user manual](https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC81) and the free [Inductive University](https://inductiveuniversity.com/) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/6/a/6ae93ea6d8f68ade5dbf54eca72ea308ba862243.png) For managing users and roles specifically, check the manual [here](https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC81/Managing+Users+and+Roles) or a video [here](https://inductiveuniversity.com/video/internal-authentication/8.1?r=%2Fvideo%2Fsearch%2F%3Fq%3Duser%20management%26checked_topics%3D)