# Visualizing tag groups **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Tags:** perspective, ignition81\ **Created:** [July 3, 2025, 7:36pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/visualizing-tag-groups/108125 "2025-07-03T19:36:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![CTrenkamp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/ctrenkamp/32/38440_2.png) [@CTrenkamp](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/CTrenkamp)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2025, 7:36pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/visualizing-tag-groups/108125/1 "2025-07-03T19:36:38Z")
I would like to show the scan rates and execution times for my tag groups and possibly my tag providers but can't find how to do it for 8.1.45. ---
**Author:** ![kvane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kvane/32/22228_2.png) [@kvane](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/kvane)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 3:42pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/visualizing-tag-groups/108125/2 "2025-07-07T15:42:06Z")
You can import/export tag groups from a provider: [Tag Groups | Ignition User Manual](https://www.docs.inductiveautomation.com/docs/8.1/platform/tags/tag-groups) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/4/4/44471b7ce4858cf50c10b775bc9097700843a977.png) The arrow icons allow exporting, then from the JSON export parse the name and rate. ---
**Author:** ![CTrenkamp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/ctrenkamp/32/38440_2.png) [@CTrenkamp](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/CTrenkamp)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 4:54pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/visualizing-tag-groups/108125/3 "2025-07-07T16:54:26Z")
Thanks for the info, but what about the execution times? How long it takes to run through the tags in each tag group. Up to 8.1 or there abouts you could go to the gateway and see how long it took each tag group to run but that is gone now it appears unless it was moved somewhere else I am unable to locate. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/4/f/4f6cba941ed00c95b8cc75f79eb02e97abb229c0.png) ---
**Author:** ![kvane](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kvane/32/22228_2.png) [@kvane](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/kvane)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 5:34pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/visualizing-tag-groups/108125/4 "2025-07-07T17:34:33Z")
`Status > Tags > {Browse Provider of Interest} > Groups Tab` has what I think you're looking for , and `Status > Devices > Details` is also useful for checking load factor. ---
**Author:** ![CTrenkamp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/ctrenkamp/32/38440_2.png) [@CTrenkamp](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/CTrenkamp)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 5:51pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/visualizing-tag-groups/108125/5 "2025-07-07T17:51:26Z")
I see this but not the durations. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/0/0/00e600569da4ed721e2725c308f00b205bea8843.png) ---
**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 6:01pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/visualizing-tag-groups/108125/6 "2025-07-07T18:01:48Z")
If your tag group only has subscriptions, or expression tags in event mode, there is no overall duration to display. The tags update when subscriptions deliver new data, or expressions run individually on demand. Perhaps you wan to look at the Device diagnostics? ---
**Author:** ![CTrenkamp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/ctrenkamp/32/38440_2.png) [@CTrenkamp](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/CTrenkamp)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 6:04pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/visualizing-tag-groups/108125/7 "2025-07-07T18:04:11Z")
I already have a view that shows all the device diagnostics, just wanted to see the tag groups execution durations at this point. ---
**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 6:07pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/visualizing-tag-groups/108125/8 "2025-07-07T18:07:17Z")
Well, **zero** is the expected duration for subscriptions and event-triggered tags because those are no-ops for the group execution. ---
**Author:** ![CTrenkamp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/ctrenkamp/32/38440_2.png) [@CTrenkamp](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/CTrenkamp)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 6:10pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/visualizing-tag-groups/108125/9 "2025-07-07T18:10:33Z")
I do remember a time when you could see how long a tag group took to execute or at least go through all the tags. I know because I restructured the groups when I had a load of tags and PLC's to go through and execution was inconsistent or delayed. Can't find it now. ---
**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 6:11pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/visualizing-tag-groups/108125/10 "2025-07-07T18:11:40Z")
You probably had some group or groups using OPC read mode instead of subscribed. That would show up the table you've found. ---
**Author:** ![CTrenkamp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/ctrenkamp/32/38440_2.png) [@CTrenkamp](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/CTrenkamp)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 6:12pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/visualizing-tag-groups/108125/11 "2025-07-07T18:12:43Z")
I will investigate further but I believe I have both. ---
**Author:** ![CTrenkamp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/ctrenkamp/32/38440_2.png) [@CTrenkamp](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/CTrenkamp)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 7:51pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/visualizing-tag-groups/108125/12 "2025-07-07T19:51:07Z")
Other than the rate and the name they are all set up the same and subscribed. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/6/7/67ff14a26da4b0143c3b3545033526cc716ba167.png) ---
**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 7:53pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/visualizing-tag-groups/108125/13 "2025-07-07T19:53:25Z")
> [@CTrenkamp](#): > > and subscribed. Ok. I don't see anything that would make duration non-zero. 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 8:12pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/visualizing-tag-groups/108125/14 "2025-07-07T20:12:02Z")
The only thing left in Ignition that might influence Tag Group "execution" and the last/avg duration columns you're looking at are expression tags in tag group execution mode. Nothing else executes like this any more. Tag Groups don't execute tags or "go through" them or anything else like that. ---
**Author:** ![CTrenkamp](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/ctrenkamp/32/38440_2.png) [@CTrenkamp](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/CTrenkamp)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 8:14pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/visualizing-tag-groups/108125/15 "2025-07-07T20:14:07Z")
Did something change in recent versions since we are now at 8.1.45? ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2025, 8:22pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/visualizing-tag-groups/108125/16 "2025-07-07T20:22:27Z")
This stuff changed in the 7.9 to 8.0 transition.