# What determines when an Unauthenticated Perspective session gets closed

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/what-determines-when-an-unauthenticated-perspective-session-gets-closed/87407>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Tags:** ignition81, perspective\
**Created:** [March 15, 2024, 3:57pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/what-determines-when-an-unauthenticated-perspective-session-gets-closed/87407 "2024-03-15T15:57:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![Shawn\_Rieger1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/shawn_rieger1/32/57040_2.png) [@Shawn\_Rieger1](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Shawn_Rieger1)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2024, 3:57pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/what-determines-when-an-unauthenticated-perspective-session-gets-closed/87407/1 "2024-03-15T15:57:36Z")

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In our primary gateway, I sometimes see many unauthenticated perspective sessions that seemingly never close, so I terminate them.

We have another test gateway with the same settings, when I log out of a perspective session, the entry in the perspective session list turns Unauthenticated and then closes after 30 seconds or so.

I can't seem to find a setting that controls this anywhere. I checked the IdP session activity timeout and that's set to 30 minutes on both. What else controls this?

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**Author:** ![cmallonee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/cmallonee/32/6416_2.png) [@cmallonee](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/cmallonee)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 2:49am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/what-determines-when-an-unauthenticated-perspective-session-gets-closed/87407/2 "2024-03-16T02:49:10Z")

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In your Designer menu bar:

`Project > Project Properties > Perspective > General > Session Timeout`  
This determines how long after a session can be disconnected before the Gateway decides the session is indeed unused.

`Project > Project Properties > Perspective > Inactivity > Inactivity Timer`  
This determines how long a session can be open but inactive before the Gateway automatically closes the session.