# Where is Perspective in Maker edition? **URL:** \ **Category:** Maker\ **Tags:** perspective\ **Created:** [November 10, 2024, 2:15am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/where-is-perspective-in-maker-edition/98432 "2024-11-10T02:15:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jjanowiak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/53a042/32.png) [@jjanowiak](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jjanowiak)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 2:15am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/where-is-perspective-in-maker-edition/98432/1 "2024-11-10T02:15:47Z")
I installed the latest version 8.1.44 Maker Edition on windows 8.1 Pro. I installed the latest Designer Launcher. I started the samplequickstart application. Perspective does not show up in the project browser of the designer. I tried reinstalling designer and ignition. I ran designer as an administrator. i tried restarting the perspective module. I checked the logs and all i can see regarding the perspective module is "Starting up module 'com.inductiveautomation.perspective' v2.1.44 (b2024102210)..." How do i get the perspective module to work? ---
**Author:** ![Transistor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/transistor/32/3380_2.png) [@Transistor](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Transistor)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 2:19am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/where-is-perspective-in-maker-edition/98432/2 "2024-11-10T02:19:00Z")
Can you post a nicely cropped screengrab of Designer's Project Browser window pane? ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 2:20am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/where-is-perspective-in-maker-edition/98432/3 "2024-11-10T02:20:40Z")
I suspect Google has dropped support for Windows 8.1 at this point, which means no Chromium in the Designer and no Perspective workspace/module. ---
**Author:** ![jjanowiak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/53a042/32.png) [@jjanowiak](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jjanowiak)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 2:32am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/where-is-perspective-in-maker-edition/98432/4 "2024-11-10T02:32:27Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/c/9/c92d250d82dc87a2705769098a5a49b1414466c4.png) ---
**Author:** ![jjanowiak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/53a042/32.png) [@jjanowiak](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jjanowiak)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 2:36am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/where-is-perspective-in-maker-edition/98432/5 "2024-11-10T02:36:35Z")
So are you saying that Ignition requires Google Chrome for development? Is this the case for all versions of Ignition? I was hoping to evaluate Ignition. I had heard it was platform independent. Is there an older version of Ignition I should download and install that would be compatible with Windows 8.1? ---
**Author:** ![Kevin.Herron](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/kevin.herron/32/7259_2.png) [@Kevin.Herron](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Kevin.Herron)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 2:39am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/where-is-perspective-in-maker-edition/98432/6 "2024-11-10T02:39:07Z")
It’s embedded and required for Perspective development. There may be an older version that still supports it but I’m not at my work computer to take a deep dive. Google dropped it starting with Chrome 110: [Sunsetting support for Windows 7 / 8/8.1 and Windows Server 2012 and 2012 R2 in early 2023 - Google Chrome Community](https://support.google.com/chrome/thread/185534985/sunsetting-support-for-windows-7-8-8-1-and-windows-server-2012-and-2012-r2-in-early-2023?hl=en) Windows 8.1 reached end of life in Jan 2023. You should use a supported OS. Less important, but if you’re evaluating Ignition for commercial use you should not use Maker. The regular version has a 2 hour trial that can be reset indefinitely. ---
**Author:** ![jjanowiak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/53a042/32.png) [@jjanowiak](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/jjanowiak)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2024, 2:41am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/where-is-perspective-in-maker-edition/98432/7 "2024-11-10T02:41:32Z")
Thanks for the feedback. I was trying to get away with using my old surface tablet at home with Maker. I can spin up a VM on my work PC that will use a supported OS. Thanks.