# Where to find gateway users permision logic?

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/where-to-find-gateway-users-permision-logic/98463>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Tags:** vision\
**Created:** [November 11, 2024, 11:46am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/where-to-find-gateway-users-permision-logic/98463 "2024-11-11T11:46:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![Alejandro\_Alaco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/alejandro_alaco/32/59849_2.png) [@Alejandro\_Alaco](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Alejandro_Alaco)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 11:46am UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/where-to-find-gateway-users-permision-logic/98463/1 "2024-11-11T11:46:43Z")

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Hello!

I have to redo the logic from a vision project onto perspective.

Now I´m looking for the users permission logic.

Where should I try to find it? on the gateway or inside the project?

Also how to open the gateway in Vision?

Thanks!

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**Author:** ![michael.flagler](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/michael.flagler/32/26272_2.png) [@michael.flagler](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/michael.flagler)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 12:57pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/where-to-find-gateway-users-permision-logic/98463/2 "2024-11-11T12:57:16Z")

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The users/permissions should be the same and be able to use the same roles. But for permissions inside Vision, typically you'll look at the project properties and bindings to find what roles have permissions.

Vision will be another item in your designer you can access.

Try to go through the Inductive University videos to become familiar with everything.

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**Author:** ![Transistor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/transistor/32/3380_2.png) [@Transistor](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Transistor)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 2:45pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/where-to-find-gateway-users-permision-logic/98463/3 "2024-11-11T14:45:57Z")

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> [@Alejandro\_Alaco](#):
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> Also how to open the gateway in Vision?

What are you trying to do?

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**Author:** ![Alejandro\_Alaco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/alejandro_alaco/32/59849_2.png) [@Alejandro\_Alaco](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Alejandro_Alaco)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 2:56pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/where-to-find-gateway-users-permision-logic/98463/4 "2024-11-11T14:56:18Z")

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HI!, I would like to check all the prvious user permision logic done in Vision so I can replicate it on Perspective

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**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 2:57pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/where-to-find-gateway-users-permision-logic/98463/5 "2024-11-11T14:57:49Z")

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To access Vision resources in the designer, the Vision module must be installed in the gateway. If you are connecting to a gateway that only has Perspective installed, you cannot access Vision.

If a client gateway you don't control, you will need to work in a temporary gateway that has both UI modules installed.

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**Author:** ![Alejandro\_Alaco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/alejandro_alaco/32/59849_2.png) [@Alejandro\_Alaco](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Alejandro_Alaco)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2024, 3:12pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/where-to-find-gateway-users-permision-logic/98463/6 "2024-11-11T15:12:05Z")

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I got the vision gateway running in one server and the perspective gateway in another. I just don´t know how to access the vision gateway as I don´t know the ip. I will check the university courses to learn how to do it.