# Why users stored database connect in to Vision client and they can't in to Perspective web app **URL:** \ **Category:** Ignition\ **Tags:** perspective, vision\ **Created:** [November 26, 2023, 1:55pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/why-users-stored-database-connect-in-to-vision-client-and-they-cant-in-to-perspective-web-app/82356 "2023-11-26T13:55:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sebastien\_ng](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/sebastien_ng/32/55297_2.png) [@sebastien\_ng](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/sebastien_ng)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 1:55pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/why-users-stored-database-connect-in-to-vision-client-and-they-cant-in-to-perspective-web-app/82356/1 "2023-11-26T13:55:12Z")
Hello, I have created a user source type **Database** They can connect in to **vision client** but they are not connecting in to **perspective web app** Sommeone can explain me what happened or why I can't connect on web app using usernames stored on database. Maybe I changed something on Gateway configuration or on Designer, but I can't understand what was changed. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/d/9/d93b66981a407b617931db9bc4f52191a2a3b893.jpeg) maybe an easy question for others but I need to understand why I can't log in even if I use the administrator username ---
**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 2:17pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/why-users-stored-database-connect-in-to-vision-client-and-they-cant-in-to-perspective-web-app/82356/2 "2023-11-26T14:17:53Z")
We aren't psychics. You say you can't understand what might have changed, but you expect us to be able to? 🤷‍♂️ Please show everything that might be related to this problem so others can spot possible mistakes. ---
**Author:** ![sebastien\_ng](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/sebastien_ng/32/55297_2.png) [@sebastien\_ng](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/sebastien_ng)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 2:31pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/why-users-stored-database-connect-in-to-vision-client-and-they-cant-in-to-perspective-web-app/82356/3 "2023-11-26T14:31:55Z")
thank you for your anwser @pturmel What I'am saying is: I created users . they are stored in database. When open Vision Client Launcher, I can connect in to vision cleint using those identity of usernames and passwords stored in database. And when I try connect in to web application, I get error message: **Login failed. Please try again.** Normally the same user that use to connect in to vision client must be connected in to web app. ---
**Author:** ![Transistor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/transistor/32/3380_2.png) [@Transistor](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Transistor)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 2:34pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/why-users-stored-database-connect-in-to-vision-client-and-they-cant-in-to-perspective-web-app/82356/4 "2023-11-26T14:34:31Z")
That's what you said the first time. ---
**Author:** ![sebastien\_ng](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/sebastien_ng/32/55297_2.png) [@sebastien\_ng](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/sebastien_ng)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 2:36pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/why-users-stored-database-connect-in-to-vision-client-and-they-cant-in-to-perspective-web-app/82356/5 "2023-11-26T14:36:32Z")
😅 it is possible usersource to connect in to vision client and not in web app ? ---
**Author:** ![pturmel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/pturmel/32/3295_2.png) [@pturmel](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/pturmel)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 2:45pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/why-users-stored-database-connect-in-to-vision-client-and-they-cant-in-to-perspective-web-app/82356/6 "2023-11-26T14:45:11Z")
Perspective uses the "Identity Provider" mechanism, which **can be** connected to a user source, but isn't necessarily. So, yes, it is perfectly possible for a user name and password combination to work in Vision and not in Perspective. Show us everything that might be relevant. Without that, we cannot help you. ---
**Author:** ![sebastien\_ng](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/sebastien_ng/32/55297_2.png) [@sebastien\_ng](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/sebastien_ng)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2023, 7:14pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/why-users-stored-database-connect-in-to-vision-client-and-they-cant-in-to-perspective-web-app/82356/7 "2023-11-26T19:14:47Z")
Hello, I didn't have the words to describe the problem . But after several recherches, I was able to understand that identity provider that was defined in to projet was not god. I created an idp at Gateway, and I define user source stored in db and I went to the project property and assigned it. now I can connect in to vision client et web app.