# Window Layout: Component, Shape; X & Y information?

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/window-layout-component-shape-x-y-information/6993>\
**Category:** Module Development\
**Created:** [August 6, 2013, 6:20pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/window-layout-component-shape-x-y-information/6993 "2013-08-06T18:20:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![billmorone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@billmorone](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/billmorone)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 6:20pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/window-layout-component-shape-x-y-information/6993/1 "2013-08-06T18:20:54Z")

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Greetings!  
We are an OEM and will be providing clients with applications. Our products have a fairly large number of configuration variations. There will be “Types” of windows with all different images.  
I am interested in storing configurations in the database, reading them and creating panels, both at config time and runtime, from the database definitions (by adding componentized controls).  
I am trying to determine what is possible/available through Ignition. I am looking at how the various elements are persisted.

I would like to completely describe in a database schema a UI I have created with the IgnitionDesigner tool. I would like to be able to create windows from this description programmatically.  
I have used shapes as overlays. I am familiar with sqltag, props, project resources (windows) and images.  
I know the components and shapes (and their properties) are persisted somehow in association with the windows but I do not see these tables through examining the internal db (through the Console).

I could have missed something.

Is window layout (components, shapes; x, y’s) persistence information not available?