# Windows in Vision overlapping docked windows

**URL:** <https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/windows-in-vision-overlapping-docked-windows/42001>\
**Category:** Ignition\
**Created:** [January 6, 2021, 6:25pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/windows-in-vision-overlapping-docked-windows/42001 "2021-01-06T18:25:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![vfkhanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/df788c/32.png) [@vfkhanna](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/vfkhanna)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 6:25pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/windows-in-vision-overlapping-docked-windows/42001/1 "2021-01-06T18:25:58Z")

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I am working with version 8.1.1 and am wanting my nav to be docked on the north which works great. Whenever I swap windows using the nav, the window open fullscreen on top of everything including the nav. I am only looking for it to fill the space not occupied by the docked window. I m not sure what I am missing.

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**Author:** ![Stevenson.Yuan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Stevenson.Yuan](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Stevenson.Yuan)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 10:21pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/windows-in-vision-overlapping-docked-windows/42001/2 "2021-01-06T22:21:43Z")

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are you using system.nav.openWindow to navigate?

If you want it to navigate using the “free” space, [system.nav.swapTo](https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC81/system.nav.swapTo)

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**Author:** ![vfkhanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/df788c/32.png) [@vfkhanna](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/vfkhanna)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 1:49pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/windows-in-vision-overlapping-docked-windows/42001/3 "2021-01-07T13:49:53Z")

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I am using a tab strip with Navigation mode set to Swap Windows

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**Author:** ![Stevenson.Yuan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Stevenson.Yuan](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Stevenson.Yuan)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 3:37pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/windows-in-vision-overlapping-docked-windows/42001/4 "2021-01-07T15:37:44Z")

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Do your window properties look like this?  
 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/8/c/8c5c3ffc33afd13657207a3ba09b065381d875e6.png)

The window that’s being navigated to should have dock position floating.

Can you provide a screenshot of what you’re seeing when you log into a client and after navigating to another page?

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**Author:** ![vfkhanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/df788c/32.png) [@vfkhanna](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/vfkhanna)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 3:55pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/windows-in-vision-overlapping-docked-windows/42001/5 "2021-01-07T15:55:58Z")

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I can confirm that my window is Floating, Location is 0,0 size is 800x470

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**Author:** ![vfkhanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/df788c/32.png) [@vfkhanna](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/vfkhanna)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:00pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/windows-in-vision-overlapping-docked-windows/42001/6 "2021-01-07T16:00:49Z")

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![Screenshot 2021-01-07 105951](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/b/4/b4ca617d5fa3878240908afa2b88f4c78d2ebbae.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![vfkhanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/df788c/32.png) [@vfkhanna](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/vfkhanna)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:02pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/windows-in-vision-overlapping-docked-windows/42001/7 "2021-01-07T16:02:44Z")

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I have not yet run a client as I am still developing. Will the client behave differently than preview mode?

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**Author:** ![Stevenson.Yuan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Stevenson.Yuan](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Stevenson.Yuan)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:03pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/windows-in-vision-overlapping-docked-windows/42001/8 "2021-01-07T16:03:50Z")

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> [@vfkhanna](#):
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> . Will the client behave dif

Ah okay that explains it. Yea navigation can only be seen/tested in runtime. In designer mode it'll just open actual windowed tabs (like when you double click a window resource).

But if you're doing things like opening a window and passing params, that'll happen in designer as well just without the same user experience from runtime.

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**Author:** ![vfkhanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/df788c/32.png) [@vfkhanna](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/vfkhanna)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:05pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/windows-in-vision-overlapping-docked-windows/42001/9 "2021-01-07T16:05:08Z")

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OK, thanks for the heads up. I will try a client and see what happens

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**Author:** ![vfkhanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/df788c/32.png) [@vfkhanna](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/vfkhanna)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 4:57pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/windows-in-vision-overlapping-docked-windows/42001/10 "2021-01-07T16:57:12Z")

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in trying the client I am asked for login creds - I am unsure of the login credentials

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**Author:** ![Stevenson.Yuan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Stevenson.Yuan](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Stevenson.Yuan)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 5:33pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/windows-in-vision-overlapping-docked-windows/42001/11 "2021-01-07T17:33:52Z")

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> [@vfkhanna](#):
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> ure of the login cre

Are you doing using 7 or 8? 7's default was admin/password. 8 required you to set up manually during the commissioning phase.

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**Author:** ![vfkhanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/df788c/32.png) [@vfkhanna](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/vfkhanna)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 5:43pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/windows-in-vision-overlapping-docked-windows/42001/12 "2021-01-07T17:43:12Z")

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using 8.1.1  
the creds that I use to login to the gateway do not work  
I left everything else as default

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**Author:** ![Stevenson.Yuan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Stevenson.Yuan](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/Stevenson.Yuan)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2021, 10:08pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/windows-in-vision-overlapping-docked-windows/42001/13 "2021-01-07T22:08:42Z")

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couple things off the top of my head-

1. If the gateway is in trial mode, you won’t be able to log in
2. ensure the project has a default authentication profile (if you look in the gateway status page you should probably see an error message of the log in attempt)

Take a look and see how this piece is configured.  
[Vision security](https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC81/Vision+Project+Properties)

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**Author:** ![vfkhanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/df788c/32.png) [@vfkhanna](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/vfkhanna)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 1:06pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/windows-in-vision-overlapping-docked-windows/42001/14 "2021-01-08T13:06:50Z")

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OK, that explains it, I am in trial mode. Is there a way to see what a project would look like in runtime prior to licensing?

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**Author:** ![vfkhanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/df788c/32.png) [@vfkhanna](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/vfkhanna)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 1:07pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/windows-in-vision-overlapping-docked-windows/42001/15 "2021-01-08T13:07:29Z")

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Appreciate your assistance with this

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**Author:** ![JordanCClark](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/jordancclark/32/83362_2.png) [@JordanCClark](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/JordanCClark)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 2:02pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/windows-in-vision-overlapping-docked-windows/42001/16 "2021-01-08T14:02:53Z")

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You can reset the timer as many times as you need through the gateway. After that you can launch your project. There will be a banner at the top saying how much time is left before you have to reset it again.

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**Author:** ![bkarabinchak.psi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/bkarabinchak.psi/32/83567_2.png) [@bkarabinchak.psi](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/bkarabinchak.psi)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 2:04pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/windows-in-vision-overlapping-docked-windows/42001/17 "2021-01-08T14:04:19Z")

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Did you create a user source that your project is attached to, but not create an users yet? I’ve seen that one before.

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**Author:** ![vfkhanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/df788c/32.png) [@vfkhanna](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/vfkhanna)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 2:21pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/windows-in-vision-overlapping-docked-windows/42001/18 "2021-01-08T14:21:41Z")

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Thanks for the response, but that is where I started. When attempting to launch the vision client I was requested to login and I cannot with any credentials that I am familiar with

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**Author:** ![vfkhanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/df788c/32.png) [@vfkhanna](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/vfkhanna)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 2:22pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/windows-in-vision-overlapping-docked-windows/42001/19 "2021-01-08T14:22:41Z")

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I do not understand what a user source is

There are only default user sources - default and opcua

Thank you. The solution was the security setting in the user source - I reset it to “default” and now it works.

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**Author:** ![bkarabinchak.psi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/user_avatar/forum.inductiveautomation.com/bkarabinchak.psi/32/83567_2.png) [@bkarabinchak.psi](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/u/bkarabinchak.psi)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2021, 2:26pm UTC](https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/windows-in-vision-overlapping-docked-windows/42001/20 "2021-01-08T14:26:17Z")

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I highly recommend taking the courses at [Browse the Lesson Library at Inductive University](https://www.inductiveuniversity.com/courses/whats-new-in-ignition-81/8.1)

The user source is a project property - it tells your project what source of users to validate the login against.

 ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/inductiveautomation/original/3X/1/c/1c63b7b89054ad6d98e6a2104ca0ad80ddcdf64e.png)

In my picture, you see there’s tabUsers selected as my data source. So when a user tries to log into the project, the username/password will be compared to the tabUsers datasource, whether thats a database table or active directory etc.
