OPC UA struct data type?

perfect… now work !!! :star_struck:

Thanks a lot…

I had the same issue and just thought it is what it is. What does this process backfill do?

In something like 8.1.1 or 8.1.2 a change to the tag system was made where values that come in with timestamps older than the current one are treated as historical values and stored if history is on, but otherwise ignored when it comes to updating the value or running scripts etc…

This flag is an escape hatch to revert to the previous behavior, and it’s a good thing it’s there because the change wasn’t very well thought out and we’re chasing down bugs and side effects of it right now.

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Hi ,
sorry i have another issue, if i set a bit of derived tag json(RESET_ALL), and this bit is resetted from plc in real time with plc time cycle, in ignition this bit stay at TRUE, but in plc is FALSE.
Why? If this bit is not resetted from PLC is updated correctly.

i have the modified parameter in config “wrapper.java.additional.2=-Dignition.tags.processbackfill=true”

Thanks

What version of Ignition are you using? Does the Tag Group have “Optimistic Writes” enabled? Did you restart Ignition after setting that parameter in ignition.conf?

It might be easier to call support and troubleshoot this with them.

Version 8.1.4, Optimistic write enable, and restarted gateway.

If i set “read after write” in Tag Group it seem to work… it’s ok to set this parameter?

It’s okay… but I’m not sure it should be necessary.

Turning the logger tags.execution.actors.opc.writemanager to DEBUG level might log some useful information. You should probably call support and troubleshoot this live if possible.

Where i set this parameter to DEBUG?

https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC81/Diagnostics+-+Logs#DiagnosticsLogs-ChangingLoggingLevels

Please call support.

With “read after write” in log after registering , there’s an event updating to read value at false when resetted from plc.

Without “read after write” in log there’s only event registering and not updating.

Is your optimistic write timeout set to 1 minute? What if you lower it to 5 seconds, does the value fallback/revert after 5 seconds without read-after-write enabled?

I put 2 second and work… Thanks a lot

So, everything is working here, it’s just not ideal. Here’s what happens:

  1. you write true to the variable in the PLC
  2. the PLC logic writes it back to false more or less immediately
  3. the variable is eventually sampled and it sees false, the same as the previous value it reported, so there is no change to report to the client.
  4. the optimistic write timeout elapses and the value is reverted to its previous value.

It seemed broken because your timeout was set so long. Ideally you want to avoid this kind of scenario where both the PLC and an external system can be writing to the same tag. Using read-after-write if you know this is the case may help, but it’s still race condition prone.

FIFY. It really is an unfixable race. Just don’t do it.

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@Kevin.Herron is the escape flag:

wrapper.java.additional.2=-Dignition.tags.processbackfill=true

still functioning after 8.1.3? I opened a ticket with support regarding this issue and they pointed me towards this post, which fixed the issue in 8.1.3 but testing on gateways at 8.1.4 and 8.1.7 I am seeing the “old” behavior again where if I call system.tag.writeBlocking() against multiple tag paths only the last write succeeds.

I’m not sure that option and the scenario you described have anything to do with each other.

Can you start from the beginning with the problem you’re seeing, preferably in a new topic?

Hi , i have installed version 8.1.7 and problem writing 2 tags at the same time seem have old problem again…

I have this setting of tagGroup:

I turning the logger tags.execution.actors.opc.writemanager to DEBUG and this is the output:

Logger write : “Canceling previous write [tag=[default]ZONA_100/DVC/ARR_1/_jsonUDT]”,

I Write the 2 tags with Script in a button (write to custom property UDT passed to template) :

event.source.parent.parent.DVC_Popup.C_Mon = 1
event.source.parent.parent.DVC_Popup.C_Moff = 0

How to solve this problem again???

Thanks

UPDATE:
if i write two tags directly , not passed from template custom property:

paths = ["[default]ZONA_100/DVC/ARR_1/C_Mon",
“[default]ZONA_100/DVC/ARR_1/C_Moff”]

values = [1,0]

system.tag.writeBlocking(paths, values)

It work… Why?

Thanks

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