Custom keyboard shortcuts?

I have looked around the forums and feature requests but either the related options I was able to find are for specific actions or the crawlers pick up everything related to the runtime layout.

Is there a way (even hacky) to customize my keyboard shortcuts? I really just cant believe ctrl+G isnt group but just having control of the shortcut mapping would be grea in the designer.

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It might help to narrow your question down to Vision (likely) or Perspective (which doesn't have a group command).

vision but its more about having control over the editor. Ill settle for a hack to give me control

You will probably have to do your hacking outside of the designer with something like Automator or autoHotKey; something that can actively listen for the key combo and subsequently perform the actions for you. Which operating system are you using?

You could also make a feature request for this.

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Custom keyboard shortcuts are on our to-do list but haven't yet risen to the top of the priority list. My plan is to lay some ground work in 8.3.0 and improve the functionality across different workspaces over the lifespan of 8.3 - but it's quite possible no such thing happens because, unfortunately, custom keyboard shortcuts aren't what sells Ignition :slight_smile:

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Is there a document for the currently available keyboard shortcuts? I would love one that allows me to quickly add a new custom property.

The shortcuts are listed on Designer's menu dropdowns and on the components' context (right-click) menus.

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https://docs.inductiveautomation.com/display/DOC81/Windows%2C+Linux%2C+and+Mac+Keyboard+Shortcuts

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For what it’s worth, you could probably download something like AHK to create custom keyboard shortcuts that execute the keyboard shortcuts in ignition.

IDK if that would be approved by the company. Any idea how safe/secure it is?

It's a tool that works only in Windows. How could it possibly matter how secure IT is?

== snort ==

/me runs away....

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Do I detect a hint of anti-MS??? :thinking:

Just a hint ?? You wound me, sir! There's more than a hint, to be sure.

https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/search?q=windows%20malpractice%20%40pturmel%20order%3Alatest

Lol -- no insult intended, to be sure!

Well, sir, I honestly do not understand such contempt for one of the world's leading OS providers. Especially since so many US companies use it quite extensively.

Albeit except for the need (aka requirement) to follow upgrade plans and cost increases... However, I do like the functionality within the MS Office products, and the ability to link/share with ease. Though this is probably due to my lack of experience with Linux distros. Is there a robustness in functionality and security that rivals MS? And how much work would be required to maintain such commercial system installations, including the servers, server OSs, HMIs, end user stations, etc.?

Rivals???? Out performs it all together.

2 reasons why it is seen with so much vitriol.

Others I can think of:

Bloated software (some of which can't be removed (looking at you Internet Explorer/Edge)), error prone, poor error reporting, even poorer patching, most updates break one or more pieces of software, performs poorly, often seems like their production release is beta testing for the next version (Windows ME, Windows 2000, Windows 8).

And that's just the tip of the Iceberg.

And don't even get me started on the "free update to Windows 11" that your computer might not be able to run, but many people will do it just because it was suggested.

Or God Forbid we talk about the catastrophe that is Bing

Oh, do tell! I am very curious!

well, here is an interesting article on Bing AI:
Bing's AI Is Threatening Users. That’s No Laughing Matter | TIME

Bing uses OpenAI, which many businesses do, so pointing the finger only at Bing may not be just.

For me:

#1 Ransomware risk. Nearly nil on linux workstations, unless you run Wine. Orders of magnitude less risk on servers.

#2 Disruptive forced updates. Windows can/will forcibly reboot your production server or HMI for some updates.

#3 Multiple independent upgrade tasks for OS versus most other software. (Linux allows this to be integrated, with independently controllable software repos participating as 1st-class citizens.)

#4 Mandatory telemetry back to Microsoft. How any business can tolerate this in the face of Sarbanes-Oxley obligations is beyond me. Or rather, is easy to understand with lobbyists involved.

#5 (Lack of) Interoperability. Lots of software will read and write Microsoft formats, but not the reverse.

#6 $$$ This used to be higher up the list, but it is still a factor.

#7 First-hand experience with "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish". Yes, I'm holding a grudge.

I'll probably think of more, but you get the idea.

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