Kindling - a collection of tools to help with Ignition

Ignition
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Hey Paul, I'm getting the below error when trying to install the latest version (v1.3.1.0) from the download from the "Install and Launch" button (Kindling). OS Windoze 10

Failed to install https://github.com/inductiveautomation/kindling/releases/latest/download/kindling.appinstaller due to error: Deployment of package Kindling_1.3.1.0_x64__7xmkzvcbwxh2t with package origin Unknown failed because no valid license or sideloading policy could be applied. A developer license (Getting a developer license for Windows 8 Consumer Preview | Microsoft Learn) or enterprise sideloading configuration (Sideload Apps with DISM | Microsoft Learn) may be required.

I'm able to run with the zip though. Looking pretty snazzy now compared to before :star_struck:

Edit: I'm using it to look at what queries failed to execute in a quarantine XML. I want to remove some of the queries in it and reimport it to try again without some of the dodgy queries. It'd be cool to be able to do this from Kindling if possible?

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Hi Paul,

Great tool! Very easy to just generate a diagnostic bundle and see everything you need to see.

For gateway backups, am I missing an easy way to view tags? I see some config information in the TAGCONFIG table, but was wondering if there would be an easy way to browse tags like in the designer.

Use-case being, say I have a gateway backup but no good place to restore it at the moment to view the tags within. But I could potentially fire up Kindling and see what I need. Thanks!

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That's a pretty cool suggestion, and I had a use case the other day for it, however I suspect the work involved would be not insignificant to add it into kindling. In my case, I'd want to be able to export tag json from it. I had a large project that I wanted to grab a UDT definition from

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That would be great. Export UDTs and tags from a backup easily.

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If we're exporting UDTs and tags, it would be great to have an option to apply AlphaNumComparator to make said JSON export diffable.

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This is an understatement :smile:

To turn a config.idb back into a tag tree is to essentially rewrite Ignition's own tag loading logic, bugs/backwards compatibility shims/warts and all. Some folks from our support team have their own internal fork of Kindling and have been working on a tag export related tool, but I've deliberately shied away from doing that work myself, because it's a massive headache. At some point they may choose to 'upstream' their work, though :man_shrugging:

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Not to say that it isn't a very compelling idea :smile: I'd love to do it, but it may have to wait for 8.3, where the structure of things is reflected on the filesystem rather than having to parse the IDB and sort/rank things in just the right way.

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