[Feedback] NEW Perspective Alarm Status Table

[ynejati]

That’s next.

[jacob.ramirez]

How do you modify the header color?

[tupanaster]

Is it possible to open the Shelved Tab by default when opening a View?

Someone asked the same question for Vision Module a while ago:
https://forum.inductiveautomation.com/t/alarm-shelf-display-by-default/47787

[cmallonee]

No, there is not currently a way to use scripting to alter the selection of the active/shelved tabs of the Alarm Status Table.

[DSI600]

This was asked in this thread back in Aug 2019 but doesn't look like it had an official response.

I’m looking to replicate the “Marquee Mode” that existed in the Vision alarm table

We are converting a Vision app to Perspective and the customer would still like to see a scrolling list of alarms in the header. How can this be achieved in perspective?

[tupanaster]

@cmallonee

there is no way to add notes when Shelving. To add notes to an Alarm which you plan to shelve, you could probably to use the data of the alarm you plan to shelve to invoke some scripting which adds notes to the alarm in a separate combination of components.

Is there a way to detect when "shelve" is clicked/triggered?

What would be the best or recommended way to add a note on shelving? As options, I can think of: custom alarm properties (associated data), custom (tag) properties, and a memory tag (if it's an UDT).

[cmallonee]

No, we don't expose any sort of extra events (onShelve, onAck) on the Alarm Status Table. If you must add a note when the alarm is shelved, then you should avoid the built-in "Shelve" button and provide your own UI which uses the selection of the Table to determine what alarms are to be shelved, then provide your notes to the alarms and shelve them yourself.

[tupanaster]

Thanks @cmallonee

Which of the three ways of writing shelve notes is better? I would guess the client will ask for a history of shelve notes.
I have historian module installed. Although, I haven't tested it with strings.

I don't know if there is a fourth option, I only see the three stated above.

Off topic, soon I'll bump into this:

@PGriffith

In general, lean on the tools that are available to you, and practice saying ‘no’ to feature requests. Ignition is a flexible enough platform that the answer is often “yes, technically”, but maintaining that one-off (that turns out to not be very important after all) is often a huge pile of technical debt that wasn’t worth it.

Edit #1:
Has anyone had any experience building this function?

[tupanaster]

@cmallonee

provide your own UI which uses the selection of the Table to determine what alarms are to be shelved

I just realized that when the alarms are shelved by a script, it logs "gateway-script" instead of the current operator name. Is there a way to use the correct user for it?

Edit #1:
Perspective - Add comment to shelved alarms
"... hit a snag with using system.alarm.shelve whereby you cannot specify the user who shelved and always shows as being shelved by gateway-script in perspective"

[tupanaster]

There is a weird behavior that I can't complete describe regarding shelve function.

I can see a case where a shelved alarm is in the active list and in the shelved list at the same time. Has anyone experienced this?

Edit #1:
I'm using system.alarm.shelve() and system.alarm.getShelvedPaths().

In one case I "re-shelve" a shelved alarm and in the other case I unshelved and shelved the same alarm again.

The function is about extending the shelving time of an alarm without waiting for it to be active again.

Edit #2:
After some testing, I can replicate the case of having the same alarms in both lists. It happens with shelve/unshelve functions, not with the built-in function for shelving.

Edit #3:
I missed the isExpired() method. "Returns True if the shelve has expired for the alarm; otherwise returns False."

[Matthew_Frei]

I would like an update to this as well. it's been over a year since this (re) question was asked.

Any solution?

[DSI600]

I created my own "Marquee" alarm "template" and have it shown in the header of the perspective app. It will just cycle through the list of alarms and display the description.

[nminchin]

Sounds good, I would just suggest adding a number and total to indciate the alarm # you're showing and the total that exist (although that could be gleaned from the number in the icon)

[DSI600]

Yeah, the number on the Icon shows the total number of alarms.

I do like the idea of showing the current alarm number as it cycles - Thanks for the suggestion.

[Arnaud_Declerck]

would like to know how you did that. Sound like a very usefull tool.

[DSI600]

state = ["ActiveUnacked", "ActiveAcked"]
i = system.tag.readBlocking('PathtoUDT/AlarmMarqeeIndex')[0].value
alarmIndex = len(system.alarm.queryStatus(source=['*enterYourFilter*'],state=state))-1 #Minus one because value is 0 based
if i == alarmIndex:
	x = 0
else:
	x = i + 1
currentAlarm = system.dataset.sort(system.alarm.queryStatus(source=['*enterYourFilter*'],state=state).getDataset(),3,False)
system.tag.writeBlocking(['PathtoUDT/AlarmMarquee','PathtoUDT/AlarmMarqeeIndex',
						'PathtoUDT/AlarmMarqueePriority','PathtoUDT/AlarmCount']
					, [currentAlarm.getValueAt(x,2),x,currentAlarm.getValueAt(x,5),alarmIndex+1])

Put the above script in a gateway timer event. I have the marquee updating every 3 seconds which seems to work fine for what we need.

Created a UDT to hold the tag values.

Then just create a graphic to display the Marquee text - I have the priority as well so the Alarm Bell Icon and Text color changes according to the 4 alarm priority colors we use.

I am sure there is a better way to do it - but this was my implementation.

[JohnIrving]

Since I'm not sure I quoted/replied to the exact post in this thread correctly, this is specifically regarding showing the Shelved alarms by default:

This would be very helpful, and from what I can see still not possible. Customer wants a tabbed alarms section with several other options (Alarms, Alarm History, Events, etc) and would have been great to have a tab for Shelved alarms with an alarm status table only showing shelved.

Thought I might be able to do it by only enabling the shelved tab button,but that still shows the unshelved alarms when it loads until the Shelved button is clicked. I think it would make a lot more sense for only the Shelved alarms to be shown when it's the only button enabled, or at least have a scripting hook so we could force that selection whenever a tab/view loaded.

For now it looks like I'm stuck with 2 rows of tabs, the existing options and then Active/Shelved tabs within the Alarms tab, was hoping to have just one row for UI simplification.

[SHuidrom]

Hi @ynejati ,

my question is specific to the feature "settings and filtering buttons" (SELECT FILTERS) option as shown below:

After clicking on this option, a "Select Filters" option pops-up. In this pop-up option, is there a way to delist some of the items as encircled in the attached snapshot below:

I have deleted these items in the perspective property editor for the AlarmStatusTable , snapshot as shown below.

However, they are still available in the pop-up "Select Filters" option.

So, is there a way to delist these items from the "select filters" option?

[Ha99]

I have the same problem did you find a solution ?
the same for the active columns, I would like to not display some column in the configuration filter ?

[SHuidrom]

No I haven't.