We’ve been trying to test out some new prox card badges that have NFC using an Android or Apple tablet with the Perspective app, but can’t seem to get anything to work in the way of reading the NFC tag. We’re able to read the NFC tag with a reader app on the devices, but when we try to read it into Perspective using the example shown in the help documentation, we can’t get it to register. We tried single and continuous mode but neither seems to work. We tried multiple types of phones and tablets with no luck. If anyone has successfully read a NFC tag in the Perspective app, can you let me know what type of device it was?
I have the same issue, were you able to figure it out?
I tested the same card on my Iphone using another App (NFC Tools) and it show the NFC popup from IOS with the message “Approach an NFC Tag”, and reads the card right away. When I trigger the action from perspective app, it won’t show that message and also won’t read the card.
Any help would be appreciated.
We have not been able to figure it out yet. We gave up for now, but hopefully someone from Inductive can chime in and let us know what device/how to actually get this to work.
Are you SURE they are NFC cards? Most badges are not NFC, but another frequency specifically for building security systems like 13.56 MHz. Generally NFC != Prox Card…
As Ryan already alluded to, your infrastructure would need to move to NFC, which is not quite the same as the more ubiquitous RFID. More like its little cousin.
Yes, we’re sure they are NFC. We got the samples from HID specifically for this purpose, to read NFC with a phone. We currently use RF Ideas Readers to read our existing Prox cards, that are the 13.56 Mhz non-NFC flavor, and the 125 kHz kind, so we’ve already been down that road where NFC and the 13.56 Mhz prox card aren’t the same thing. For the sample badges we have, we are able to read them with an NFC reader app on a phone or tablet, without any kind of RF Ideas dongle, so they definitely are NFC tags.
I haven’t had to go down this road yet, but do you have a part number you can share?
Sorry to hear NFC isn’t working. Do you mind sending me a screenshot from NFC Tools of the read. It’s likely that we don’t have support for the tag type yet. I know we have a ticket for supporting ISO 15693 tags.
That’s the read I’m getting from NFC Tools.
I’m not sure it’s related but I’ve tried other apps as well, and the ones that have some kind of message with the IOS popup seem to work. The ones that don’t have any message (including Perspective), won’t work.
Looks like iOS has different interfaces for different type of cards (Apple Developer Documentation)… I am sure that is what @mrojas is talking about as the open ticket to implement. It seems NDEF tags are only implemented right now.
This is the details on our NFC cards:
@mrojas are there any plans to support MIFARE/ISO-14443-4? From what we’ve seen and been told, that’s the standard protocol for entry badges.
We do have plans on adding support for more NFC types and I just created a ticket for including ISO-14443-4 along with ISO-15693. I’ll see if we can get it’s priority bumped up. We’re pretty busy with 8.1 release currently, so hopefully as soon as that’s done it’ll free me up to start. I’ll check in when I have a more specific timeframe.
Hi, has there been any update on this question? It still seems impossible to scan NFC other than NDEF. We also use cards with 14443-3A and are not able to scan these cards with the Perspective App even though we can scan with another app on the same device.
Hi there, has there been any updates on this? We have ISO-15693 tags and we’re unable to read them from our perspective mobile devices as of 8.1.12. We are able to read these tags via. another app on the same device
Update → Was able to get this working using written data to the tag rather than tag property data. Originally we were planning to use the predefined tag serial no of each tag for tracking purposes, however it looks like Ignition cannot read tag properties at the moment. This would be very convenient as the tracking system would not have to manage writing a secondary unique ID to the tags from another application. That said, by first writing data to the NDEF formattable tag using secondary app (NFC tools), we are able to then access the newly written data from Ignition perspective app!
Any updates on this? We also have ISO-14443-3A tags, but the Perspective app doesn’t read it.
Have there been any updates here? I just discovered I also cannot scan ISO-14443-3A tags.
On version 8.1.23
No updates currently. I did just bump the priority a bit though and ill see if we can get the ball rolling on this
Hi, me too, I just discovered I cannot scan ISO-14443-3A tags. Unfortunate